tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post1967587684197706680..comments2024-03-08T00:19:44.136-05:00Comments on The Kanrei Home for Wayward Lemmings: (Title on Strike)Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15897700063744746464noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post-9505339249964429772007-12-10T15:27:00.000-05:002007-12-10T15:27:00.000-05:00NYC PA, Welcome and thank you for adding that. I ...NYC PA,<BR/> Welcome and thank you for adding that. I do not work in the industry and therefore do fall victim to the various spins being put out by the various sides. I do side with the writers somewhat, but I think they have gone too far in their actions personally. I may be wrong and am sure there are hundreds who will proudly tell me I am, but I can't help thinking what I do.<BR/><BR/>I did not know the gaffers and such had a union and I am wondering why they are remaining silent right now. Do they support the writers and are gladly not working or would they like everyone to settle and get back to work. That photo in the New York Times (see above post) does make me think they are tired of BOTH sides. <BR/><BR/>Please let me know as much as you can about this. As someone who is actually part of it I would love for you to correct me when I am wrong in the future. Some people take offense at having errors pointed out, but I find it is the only way I learn.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15897700063744746464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post-11166393589417572192007-12-10T15:11:00.000-05:002007-12-10T15:11:00.000-05:00An important correction to Kanrei's original entry...An important correction to Kanrei's original entry is that gaffers, make-up artists, costumers, cameramen etc DO have their own unions, hence they cannot show their support by striking along with the writers. However, as someone who does work in film and without a union no less (or did up until four weeks ago when my last job wrapped), trust me, few of us find fault with the writers, and we all know how much money the producers have to pay PR phenoms to try to turn us against our colleagues. Underpaid collateral damage we all may be, but the damage-doers are the producers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post-68420217318086981832007-12-10T14:41:00.000-05:002007-12-10T14:41:00.000-05:00Steve, I agree 100% when it comes to movie script ...Steve, <BR/>I agree 100% when it comes to movie script writers or people like a Tina Fey who wrote, but also created the show. My issue is with the staff writers, the people who are part of a pool and are sent by the studio to write for this show or that. They are doing the job they were paid to do. To expect even more money is, to me, silly. To me, there is not a single group of writers striking and therefore not a single "right or wrong" issue. This is the problem for me because a percent are 100% correct and a percent are 100% wrong and they are fighting together so either we punish those who are right or we reward those who do not deserve it. I am centering instead on the hundreds if not thousands who are not part of the studio or the WGA who are losing their jobs daily. I cannot support a writer wanting 1% more and being willing to send hundreds who get nothing extra to the unemployment lines.<BR/><BR/>The writers say there would be no show without them, but that is only partially true. Let the writers try to do a show without sets, make-up, costumes, cameras, greeters for the audience, and so on. The writers are being selfish to me. Not all of them mind you, but a good percent.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15897700063744746464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post-33150037157024307272007-12-10T14:33:00.000-05:002007-12-10T14:33:00.000-05:00I'm straddling the middle. Sure the strike is star...I'm straddling the middle. Sure the strike is starting to hurt. That's actually the purpose of the strike, and why other organizations and people have a vested interest in ending the strike quickly. So one way to end it would be to renegotiate the contract under "Work for Hire Rules" and pay writers enough at the begining of the production area to own the script outright (like studios used to do). However, this costs more and involves more risk to the studio. Or continue the practice of incentive payments (royalties) and pay the writers for everywhere their work is distributed. <BR/><BR/>Instead the studios are saying to the writers, sure we pay you less, and we base that pay on royalties that you may (or may not) get, but these uses and potential profits over here, you don't deserve anything for them. <BR/><BR/>Can't have it both ways.Steve Buchheithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12999709767641212586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post-67992445033704578552007-12-10T13:14:00.000-05:002007-12-10T13:14:00.000-05:00Steve confused me a bit. I am not sure if he agre...Steve confused me a bit. I am not sure if he agrees with me or not.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15897700063744746464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post-25753587757366853892007-12-10T13:11:00.000-05:002007-12-10T13:11:00.000-05:00Thats fine if the studios paid Work for Hire rates...Thats fine if the studios paid Work for Hire rates. In that case what the writers produced would belong to the studios. Instead the studios base their pay on "incentivisation" so if the work is good, the writer gets more which leads to pushing the writer to produce good work. It's also a way to pay the writers less out of the gate. Pay full work for hire rates, end the strike. Continue incentive payments, then the writers should stay on strike until they get paid for the whole enchilada of distribution. It's like basing wait staff pay on tips. It's meant to incentivise good service. It's also a way for the restaurant get more workers to work harder while paying them less.Steve Buchheithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12999709767641212586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post-42225638432780918272007-12-10T13:06:00.000-05:002007-12-10T13:06:00.000-05:00I'm not sure I understand enough about the roles, ...I'm not sure I understand enough about the roles, rights, and responsibilities of Unions in general.Camille Alexahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09031841106283355784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post-68760093070800016992007-12-10T10:10:00.000-05:002007-12-10T10:10:00.000-05:00Spammed in Spanish no less. Don't I get enough of...Spammed in Spanish no less. Don't I get enough of that here in Miami on a daily basis?<BR/><BR/><I>If the gaffers and others really thought that the writers were wrong, do you think they'd be on strike? That's usually an issue voted upon.</I><BR/><BR/>The gaffers did not have a say. This was a WGA choice to strike or not. Those who are on the staff of a show are voiceless collateral damage.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15897700063744746464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30951741.post-53932087729815965862007-12-10T08:17:00.000-05:002007-12-10T08:17:00.000-05:00Looks like you've been Spammed. I can relate to th...Looks like you've been Spammed. <BR/><BR/>I can relate to the writers, the studios will continue to rake in money for the works, from syndication, or reruns or whatever, that puts all the money in their coffers, while eliminating the need for the writers services. Actors get a cut now, but they didn't used to, why not the actual creators? Book writers get residuals. If the gaffers and others really thought that the writers were wrong, do you think they'd be on strike? That's usually an issue voted upon. It's merely a matter of corporate greed, one that should be addressed, which is exactly what is happening. So I don't see new shows, big deal. The corporations do that all the time anyway.Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00677769325841091545noreply@blogger.com